1/29/2024 0 Comments Nwod vampire combat sheet![]() ![]() There are only two good things that ever came from V5, IMHO. So from both the perspective of setting and rules, V5 is a crock of shit IMHO. It's still there with all the setting and rules changes, but you don't have Achilli himself writing these whole sidebars telling you you're playing the game wrong if you don't do it in a specific way. The practice of explicitly chiding players for badwrongfun was completely gone by V20 and is slightly less on the nose in V5 than it was in Revised. This is one of the biggest hallmarks of the Achilli School. It doesn't help that WoD has the issue of the writers always chiding people who "played the game wrong" and telling them they should play "Some Other Game" while also using the lore and metaplot to try and police the setting of anything they personally didn't like. All the shit like Touchstones, the reworked and altered Disciplines, the Hunger Dice, etc. Thing is though, I don't like the V5 mechanics either. I can see why the designers of V5 wanted a reset of the setting, it's a complete mess than has created a weird fanbase obsessed with its terrible 'worldbuilding' over making a game at a table.Ĭonsider the tangled mess that is the settings for Marvel and DC, but that doesn't impede anyone when playing a game of MSH or DCH. This idea that the lore in a supplement somehow 'ruins' the game seems like a particular obsession of the WoD fanbase, it certainly exists in other games, it is headache inducing to see some ramble on about the changes to Forgotten Realms as well, as if just because it appears in a book that they're coming to your house and making you run it that way at the table.Ĭonsider the tangled mess that are the settings for Marvel and DC, but that doesn't impede anyone when playing a game of MSH or DCH. Thinbloods for instance are completely optional in V5. No one is forcing you to follow any lore from any edition and there is no requirement that you play any edition's ruleset tied to that edition's lore. You're defining V5 by its lore when the core book gives options to play completely outside any of the lore. The Ashirra in the Middle East is in a similar position, of course.Īnd that's assuming I'm focusing on a grand-scale V20 setting.įor a more localized old-school V1 sort of game, that information is a lot less relevant. The Justicars may care what the Prince of Chicago does but they don't give two shits what the Prefect of Chengdu does unless it directly threatens the Masquerade. These Asian sects all have their own equivalent to the Masquerade and the other Camarilla traditions but they are not subject to the authority of any Archons and Justicars. The Kuei-Jin courts instead get turned into regional sects that are roughly congruent with the Camarilla but they aren't truly part of it either. There are NO Kuei-Jin at all, but the Camarilla and Sabbat don't have much real pull over there either. So yeah, in my setting, East Asia is fully accessible to Cainite Kindred. That said, many Assamites in the New World will try to play up the "scary brown people with religion" angle to try and scare clueless neonates from other clans. ![]() I always viewed the Assamites as more of a specific clan/cult that emerged from the Middle East but they were not the dominant clan in the Middle East nor were they even the largest and in my setting, there are other variants of Assamites in both the West and East Asia. V5 still has all those awful setting changes I don't like and I don't like the mechanical parts I've seen either. Some of it, almost 100% of it from Matthew Dawkins, was following up on preexisting lore. Which is to say that not everything from 5th Edition came with cooties. * The Time of Thin Blood was another 3rd Edition supplement and the whole, "Caitiff are now everywhere" was a theme since 1st Edition. Also, not even going to work within "silly campy" campaigns for any players who are familiar with Assassins Creed. V20 just pretended it didn't happen as if forgetting that they joined in 3rd Edition to remind the player base that the 2nd Edition version were profoundly racist and stupid. * The Assamites joined the Camarilla in 3rd Edition, not 5th. Montano was already a "I was around when humans were still living in caves" 4th generation vampire that was on the Inner Council. * The Lasombra Antitribu were already the largest Bloodline within the Camarilla and given vampire population figures, a few hundred vampire difference either way between a Clan. However you want to do your games but I found the anti-V5 reaction seems to have occasionally come with a collective case of amnesia for some fans. ![]()
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